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C-Bot: Taming the Volcano’s print settings

The C-Bot has been a lot of fun to play with.  And slightly dangerous:  “Quick” five hour prints  can easily cost close to $20.  And while it’s been good at printing large vases and shelves, I’ve not been happy with it’s small-scale detail.  The biggest problem is the 1.0mm E3D-V6 Volcano nozzle leaving blobs all over the place.  But after a good… 12 hours of making test prints, I’ve finally got it to a place where I’m starting to get happy with the results (based on my initial settings discussed here).  Below I’ll walk though the details.

All of the vases and shelving I’ve made (here, here, & here) have been printed at 45mm/sec, in PLA, at 250 degrees.  Which is way to hot for PLA, but I learned that when slicing in Simplify3D’s ‘vase mode’, at that speed, if lower temps are used, the print will delaminate into a slinky when done.

For whatever reason, 45mm/sec was a very important speed in my head, so I spent days trying to calibrate the nozzle at that speed.  But it’s been hard.  So finally today I brought it back to 30mm/sec, and finally, with a ton of fiddling, got some good results.  The slicer terms I discuss below are based on Simplify3D‘s settings.

Compare prints A & B (500 micron layers you see there), each 40mm across:

tame volcano  Same model, same orientation, different print settings.

For the life of me, I couldn’t get rid of all the zits on print A:  Even though I had retraction enabled, whenever the hotend would come to the end of a segment, I could physically see a bit of filament extrude out.  No amount of additional retraction, ‘wiping’, ‘coasting’, or ‘extra restart distance’ would solve the problem.  Finally, in the ‘Advanced’ tab, I checked on ‘Perform retraction during wipe movement’, and print B was born.  At this point I easily had a small bucket full of test prints, so I was pretty happy, and may have lol’d a bit.

From there, I gave the Make 2012 Torture Test a try again:  I’d done it before, and… I didn’t take a pic, it looked like my printer had thrown up all over the place.  So while the below image looks pretty sketchy compared to some finely-tuned .4mm nozzle machine printing at 100-200 micron, for this beast, I’m pretty happy:

torture (Note, I intentionally didn’t show the back : The rainbow arch did fail.  But it almost made it… )

Based on all of that, here’s the highlights of the Simplify3D settings:

Material:

  • Gizmo Dorks Gray PLA, printed on glass covered in wood-glue slurry.

Extruder Tab:

  • Nozzle Diameter: 1.0
  • Extrusion Multiplier: 0.9
  • Extrusion Width: Manual : 1.0
  • Retraction : On
  • Retraction Distance: 10mm
    • Note, the “E3D-v6 Troubleshooting Guide” says not to use retractions over 5mm, since they can pull the filament into the cold-zone.  But this is for their default (smaller) nozzle\hotblock, and the Volcano is already 10mm longer than it, so a 10mm retraction has been working ok.
  • Retraction Speed: 60mm/sec
  • Wipe Nozzle: On (This pairs with the wipe setting in the Advanced tab, below.  Weird they split the settings into multiple tabs…)
  • Wipe Distance: 3mm

Layer Tab:

  • Primary Layer Height: 0.5mm
  • Top Solid Layers: 3
  • Bottom Solid Layers: 2
  • Outliner/Perimeter Shells: 1
  • First Layer Height: 75%
  • First Layer Width: 110%
  • First Layer Speed: 75&

Temperature:

  • Extruder: 210c
  • Heated Bed: Off

Coolling:

  • Fan turns on, on layer 3.

Other:

  • Default Printing Speed: 30mm/sec (printing at faster speeds requires hotter print temps to get the filament melted in time)
  • X/Y Axis Movement Speed: 60mm/sec
  • Filament Diameter: 1.75mm (as measured, pretty spot on)

Advanced:

  • Only Retract When Crossing Open Spaces:  Off (this speeds things up, but lowers outer shell quality when only printing with one shell).
  • Force Retraction Between Layers: Off
  • Perform Retraction During Wipe Movement : On (this is where the magic happened)

So now that I have it working at that speed, next up will be to see if I can get similar positive results, but faster!

New 3D Print: Hex-shelf concept

I wanted to print something a bit, “beefier” on my C-Bot, so I came up with this hexagonal shelf design in Maya:

Sliced in Simplify 3D, took just over five hours to print. Little under 12″ across, 5″ deep, printed in Makergeeks “Soulful Blue” pla.  Used the same 1mm E3D Volcano nozzle with 0.75mm layer heights. Intentionally didn’t print the roof to show off the cool infill. Weighs 630g, 1 shell, 15% ‘fast hexagonal’ infill,  which came out pretty organic looking since the slicer sort of ‘skips’ every other infill layer (as you can see if you inspect the close-up pic) and only prints half of what it should.

New 3d prints: More big vases on the c-bot

As I continue to calibrate the c-bot, I continue to crank out vases.  The big one below is just about 21″ high, took around 4.5 hours.  The smaller one took around 3 hours.  Each have one shell, printed in “vase mode” in Simplify 3d.  They both have bases and also make good drums :)

The smaller one definitely suffered from some gaps in the layers.  Not sure what this has to do with yet:  Questionable filament, filament not being cooled fast enough, not sure.  But they currently look good next to my fire place 😉

You can download them from Thingiverse here.

cbot-vases02

Building the C-Bot 3D printer: Part 27 : First ‘really big’ print

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Emboldened by the success on my previous ‘big print‘, I thought I’d go for a ‘really big print’:  Something that would really take up the whole build volume.  In Maya, I quickly modeled up a simple vase, sliced it in Simplify3D, and a few hours later, I had a… really big vase :)

Print specifics:

  • Size:  20″ tall, base diameter of 11″.  Could go an inch larger in each direction, but didn’t want to push it (yet).
  • Sliced in Simplify 3D, ‘vase mode’: 1 shell (plus no floor or roof, its a tube)
  • Gray PLA
  • 500 micron layer height, 1.0mm E3D Volcano nozzle
  • 250 deg extruder temp, 50 deg bed
  • Print bed:  Glass, slathered with wood-glue/water mix.
  • Print speed:  45mm/sec
  • Total print time:  3 hours, 9 minutes.  Adding a floor would have definitely pushed the time up.

Learnings:

  • I’m happy with the print quality, but I can see where the neck narrows how the filament isn’t being cooled enough (gets slightly lumpier compared to the larger base):  I have a pair of 20cfm fans on order to see if this helps:  My current fans are around 4cfm each, which isn’t nearly enough considering this machine easily pushes out 3x the volume of material compared to my Replicator1, at a higher temp.  And the cooling fan I have on my Rep1 has around 8cfm.
  • Once I bolt the printer down to the table it’s on, it should help lessen the vibration that comes from all that moving mass up on top, and get better quality.  On the todo list…
  • Even though I have all my stepper voltages tuned in, my Bowden extruder stepper was still getting pretty warm after about an hour, so I pointed a fan at it.  Didn’t want a repeat of before

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C-Bot 3D Printer: Resource Page

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This page is a collection of resource for building my Core-XY C-Bot printer:  Electronics, hardware, software related.

Finished C-Bot!

Finished C-Bot!

OpenBuilds Links:

  • Main C-Bot page : Includes printed part picture links, and external 3d files that are needed (for the Bowden extruder, etc).
  • C-Bot Forum : Fantastic Resource
  • C-Bot File List : Original BOM, assembly guide, and all the stl’s to print.
  • Link to my BOM.  This is a modified version from the OpenBuilds page based on my specific needs.
    • Note when ordering the hardware:  Think about the overall color of the printer:  Many nuts and bolts can come in silver or black:  Do you care? Should they all be one or the other?  Worth considering.

Hardware:

Core-XY Mechanics Theory Link

To build the 12″ x12″ x24″ build volume, these were my extrusions lengths:

  • The below labeling corresponds with the Assembly Guide updates (above link) that Mason Sheffield made.
  • 20×40 OpenBuilds V-Slot Extrusions:
    • A : Vertical Legs : 4x 820mm
    • B : Top/Bottom Horizontal X : x4 440mm
    • C : Top Horizontal Y : 2x 450mm
    • D : Base Horizontal Y : 2x 420mm
    • E : Print Bed Supports (Mounts to G) : 2x 395mm
    • F : Top XY-Gantry (what extruder mounts to) : x1 464mm
  • 20×60 OpenBuilds V-Slot Extrusions:
    • G : Rear Z-Slider : x1 428mm
  • ACME Leadscrews : 2x 705mm

Important notes though:

  • Using the E3D Volcano Extruder subtracts 2″ from your build height based on how much it hangs down.  And, the above calculates on the Z-axis were still off, so right now I’m at a practical 21″ build height not 24″.  To resolve a few options:
    • Cut longer A lengths.
    • Redesign the extruder holder to move it ‘up’ more.
    • Since my z-gantry is a 40×60, I could actually move the whole build-platform down by 20mm by sort of ‘reversing’ it.  however, I feel that design would give less overall strength to it.
  • Basically, calculate your extruder length into your overall height.

Electronics


Software/Firmware


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